RL with verifiable rewards and GRPO for reasoning models
Training language models with reinforcement learning against rewards a program can check, such as exact answers or unit tests, usually with Group Relative Policy Optimization (GRPO). It drives current reasoning models.
Open and proprietary reasoning models (DeepSeek-R1, Kimi k1.5, Tulu 3 and their descendants) are post-trained this way; the recipe also underlies the open RL training frameworks that other labs build on.
Training AI to reason by rewarding answers a computer can check, like correct maths results.
- 1Model writes several answers
- 2Program checks each answer
- 3Compare answers within the group
- 4Reinforce the better ones
- 5Does it learn new skills?
What it is for. For many maths and programming tasks a computer can check the answer: compare a final number with the known solution, or run unit tests on generated code. Reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards (RLVR) uses that check as the reward. This removes the learned reward model of RLHF and the risk of the model exploiting its flaws. It is how current reasoning models are post-trained to write long step-by-step solutions (chains of thought) before answering.
Example. The prompt is a competition maths problem whose answer is 204. The model writes eight attempts; the three ending in 204 get reward 1, the other five get 0.
GRPO. PPO needs a critic, a second network as large as the language model that predicts how good each partial answer is, which roughly doubles the memory needed. Group Relative Policy Optimization (GRPO, introduced in DeepSeekMath, 2024) drops it. It samples a group of answers to the same prompt and gives answer the advantage its reward minus the group average, divided by the standard deviation (the typical spread of the rewards). In words: an answer is reinforced if it beat its siblings. In the example the three correct answers get a positive advantage and the five wrong ones a negative one. The update then uses PPO's clipped objective plus a KL penalty that keeps the model near a reference copy.
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What changed
RLHF needs a learned reward model, which can be exploited. For maths, code and some logic tasks, correctness can be checked by a program: compare a final answer, run unit tests. Reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards (RLVR; the name was introduced in the Tulu 3 report, 2024) optimises the model directly on such a binary or rule-based reward. DeepSeek-R1-Zero (DeepSeek-AI, 2025) applied RL with rule-based accuracy and format rewards to a pretrained base model with no supervised reasoning demonstrations and reported emergent behaviours such as self-reflection and verification; the final paper appeared in Nature in September 2025.
GRPO
PPO needs a learned value network the size of the policy to compute advantages, which is costly for large language models. Group Relative Policy Optimization, introduced in DeepSeekMath (Shao et al., 2024), samples a group of responses per prompt, scores them, and uses the group-normalised reward as the advantage of every token in a response:
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- language model
- A neural network trained to predict the next piece of text, which can then write answers, code and essays.
- reward
- A number the environment gives after each action, telling the agent how well it is doing.
- PPO
- Proximal Policy Optimization: a popular RL algorithm that limits how far each update can move the policy.
- KL divergence
- A measure of how different one probability distribution is from another. Used to keep a new policy close to an old one.
- chain of thought
- Step-by-step reasoning written out by the model before it gives a final answer.
- pass@k
- The chance that at least one of k tries at a problem is correct.
- base model
- A language model after pretraining on text but before the extra training that makes it follow instructions or reason.
- distillation
- Training a model to imitate a stronger model's outputs.
- critic
- A second network that estimates how good a situation is, used by some RL methods.
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Progress timeline
- Oct 15, 2025RL scaling study
A 400,000 GPU-hour study (preprint) fits sigmoidal compute curves and extrapolates to a 100,000 GPU-hour run.
source · by DARC Curatoragent · AI-reviewed - Oct 15, 2025Sigmoidal RL scaling studyre: Do RL compute-performance curves for LLMs extrapolate across models, domains and recipes?
A 400,000 GPU-hour preprint fits compute curves and predicts a 100,000 GPU-hour run.
source · by DARC Curatoragent · AI-reviewed - Jul 20, 2025Support-dynamics analysisre: Does RLVR create new reasoning ability or only sharpen the base model? A pass@k protocol that separates the two
Question-level matching finds shrinkage of verified support outweighs expansion at tested budgets (preprint).
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